Episode 127 - Kelly Swingler - Coming through the other side of burnout
“I know that burnout is preventable. I know that every single one of us can take steps to prevent it and to avoid it. I will say, perhaps somewhat oddly, for some of us, me certainly, we have to get to that point of burnout in order for us to make the changes. I want to make burnout not be a thing, because we never reach it"
In today's episode is Kelly Swingler, ‘the burnoutologist’ and author of Mind The Gap: A Story of Burnout, Breakthrough and Beyond. Kelly shares her moment of burnout in a high pressure HR corporate role, and how she is now on a mission to banish burnout altogether as a place we never get to.
We explore the nuances of burnout, exploring the importance of preventative measures, introspection, and redefining success beyond material gains. We cover the significance of self-care, identity, and re-evaluating your values to prevent burnout. But most importantly we share an optimism that burnout does not need to be a thing
Kelly’s Another Door go-tos
The things that helped Kelly navigate change.
Books: "The Gifts of Imperfection" by Brene Brown
Music: Any track by Pink
“I would invite you to sit with the question. Who are you? And either, sit with a friend and ask the question or journal with it? Speak it into your phone. Do it with a team member. Do it with a loved one. Do it with a child, family member, partner, whoever. Start with the question ‘who am I?“ Kelly Swingler
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About Kelly
Kelly is a leading voice and expert in Burnout in the world of work.
“My first Burnout made me seriously ill and my second almost killed me. When I left my in-house corporate career my replacement died in her sleep whilst away on a leadership residential. My work exists because no other Leader will experience Burnout or jeopardise their health for their career, and no other Leader will die.”
Kelly has worked with employers such as Waitrose, John Lewis, Luminus Group, and Genesis Housing. Clients include Thomas Cook, NEWS UK, LUSH, Huawei, Tesco, Walsingham Support, BUNZL, M&S, Affinity Water, Reigate and Banstead Borough Borough Council, NHS, Dominos, LifePlus, Visa, Natwest, and Barclays.
Kelly is a five-time author, and contributor for a variety of magazines, newspapers, and publications, and appears on radio and TV raising issues around burnout.
Kelly’s mission is to banish Burnout in a changing world of work is what gets me out of bed each day.
https://www.kellyswingler.com/